Pivot by Design: The Ultimate Renovation Project with Teresa de Grosbois
Yet another beautiful day to be grateful to be alive…. and another amazing PIVOT story about someone utilizing change for good… someone stepping into the power of change instead of fearing it: Teresa De Grosbois. I’m blessed to know Teresa who is a 4x Bestselling Author and an international speaker. Teresa specializes in the topics of influence and success. In this episode, she shares learnings from her “stellar pivots’, including her transition from the trappings of corporate success to the sobering realization that SHE needed to be her primary “renovation project”. Teresa shares the beauty that comes from making the decision to “pivot by design”. Her book, Mass Influence, The Habits of the Highly Influential, hit #1 international bestseller on the same day it launched. Teresa teaches business and marketing courses around the globe, including teaching courses to start-up entrepreneurs in developing countries. She is sought by entrepreneurs and large corporations who want to better understand how local word of mouth can suddenly turn into epidemic. status in North America and Europe. We also talk about Teresa’s experience as the Chair of the Evolutionary Business Council, an international, invitation-only council of speakers and influencers dedicated to teaching the principles of success and transforming the world through teaching and leadership
Learn more about Teresa at teresadegrosbois.com and her book at massinfluencethebook.com, where you can take a 30-day influence challenge and download a free digital version of the book.
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Pivot by Design: The Ultimate Renovation Project with Teresa de Grosbois
It’s a beautiful day because if you’re listening to this podcast and you’re alive and awake, that’s the greatest thing that any of us can be. In fact, it’s such a blessing everyday when we have that first waking moment, to take that first conscious breath that we realize how sacred that is. What a holy moment, holy day it is that we are given. Knowing in that moment when we take that first breath, there are people all over who are taking their very last breaths. It’s not a great stretch to be grateful there. I just think back to all those years as I practice law for almost eighteen years and I would put my feet on the floor in the morning and I wouldn’t feel that way. I wouldn’t feel blessed to be taking that first breath or how nice it is to be alive and awake and, “What can we do with this day and what’s my assignment?” I asked none of those questions. I just had to get up, hit the alarm, turn the snooze off, get the coffee, shower, shave and head into the rat race.
My pivot is all of you at this point know my story quite well, I won’t reshare it but what I love is that I get to present and not just on a level of superficiality but the opportunity to dig deep into pivot stories of people just like you, just like me who have done remarkable things to utilize change. Instead of fearing it and hiding from it as so many people do their whole lives, I love to meet people and showcase and introduce you to people that stepped right into it. Get changed right up in their grill and do something magical with it.
I am delighted to introduce a lady to you that has really done some incredible things in the business space. She empowers so many people and that’s how I got to meet her through a mutual friend. Sometimes we call it thought leadership, I personally prefer transformational leadership because I think everybody in this world has an opportunity to teach something and all teachers are leaders. I just love the idea that we’re all transforming the world through our teaching and through our leadership. Without further ado, I want to introduce to you this beautiful lady who is going to share a little bit about herself and her experience and I’m going to dive right into the nitty-gritty, the meat of the pivot story, the good, the bad, the ugly. Welcome please, Teresa De Grosbois.
Thank you.
Will you share a little bit just your background? Then we’ll dive into the pivot, the juicy stuff.
As many of you probably know, I’m an influence expert. I wrote the book, Mass Influence: The Habits of the Highly Influential, which I’m blessed to say has remained on the bestseller list for almost two years now in seven different countries. I get the gift that is from a number of people who just love me, that they keep talking about my book and for me that epitomizes what influence is. It’s ironic that’s what we’re talking about in the book, which is that influence is how many people know, like and trust you enough that they will take action on your word. I love that you role model that with your viewers and your listeners too. It’s really cool.
Why don’t we talk about pivots because I think more than anything people want to know, “Is anybody as messed up as me?” Under any circumstance, “Does anybody had, in the personal development space, as much story as me and most importantly, more than commensuration?” What do we do about it and how do you utilize those things to massive impact?
I love that you focused on pivot stories because I always say discomfort is the doorway to breakthrough. Breakdowns are necessary for breakthrough in my world. I think those moments where we do pivot are sometimes the ugliest moments of our life or at least at that time we think they are. I’ve had a few really big ones in business; three that come to mind stellar. I think the first would have been my transition from working in the corporate world to being actually a business owner that was doing something that had a lot more meaning for me. I was in that space. A lot of people say the biggest barrier to creating the life of your dreams is a good job. It’s really hard to leave a job that you like and that is okay. If your job sucks and you hate your boss, it’s not that hard to recreate yourself. If your life is just okay, let’s say you are a C+ or a B-, it doesn’t really suck and there is some comfort zone in that.
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Here I was working in Canada’s airline gas sector. I actually had a leadership role, a healthy six-figure income but I really wasn’t lit up going to work in the morning. I had delved into the foray of business owner in the past. I was really in that space of, “Is this all there is?” I love the expression you used, not getting up in the morning and being really excited to wake up. Then I had what I would affectionately call my really bad year and I can laugh at it now because I now know it was one of the best things that ever happened to me.
I know that not because people are mean-spirited at all, I know people listening to this right now, going, “Please, yes, I want to hear about that.” What would a really bad year look like?
What that look like for me was in the first six months of that year, my marriage had ended, my father had passed away, my health was in an utter and complete tailspin and the business I was running at that time had terminated basically. It failed miserably. I remember at that time, waking up in the morning with the only thought in my head being how incredibly unhappy I was, and I really did. I had all the outward trappings of success. I had had a highly successful six-figure career to that point. I was a highly respected leader in my industry. I had the nice house, the great car, two kids, a dog, everything that society might say is a marker of success.
I remember there was actually a specific moment where I’m sitting in the bathroom of my new condo post-marriage breakup. I’ve always been a renovator. I’m surrounded by tools because this bathroom is going to be my latest project. I’m literally soaked with my own tears because the only thought in my mind is it’s me that needs renovating. I’m looking back over the last ten years of my life and I honestly, in that moment, can’t point to a time where I can remember being totally lit up on fire, in passion about something.
It was such a beautiful moment because when you have those moments, right then I decided I’m going to be my next project. Forget the bathroom, forget renovating houses, I need to be my next renovation. I started doing everything under the sun. I took every self-help course known to man. I think that’s first where I got exposed to you as a teacher actually because you were one of the trainers in one of the courses I took. I went back to school. I did a full certificate in mediation because I’ve always been a conflict avoider and I wanted to get on top of that. I got a lot more serious about my health, my yoga and my meditation. Slowly my life started to shift so much so that two years after that point, I don’t think I would have recognized myself. I couldn’t have envisioned what my life would become sitting on that bathroom floor in a pool of tears.
I’m thinking as I’m listening to you that I’ve been in not the same exact situation but for me, it was waking up feeling dread and then going off and doing what I was doing and coming home at night and feeling like I’m missing my own life. It’s a pretty low place to be. I don’t attribute an age to it. People sometimes say, “It’s a midlife crisis thing.” I don’t think it has to do with age. Do you think it’s an age thing? Or do you think it’s something other than that?
I attribute it to more like a Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs thing. That once we’ve got those basic needs met, once we know the roof is over our head, the rent is paid and our family is safe and looked after, then the question starts, “Is this all there is? Who am I to contribute to the world?” If you look at the Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, the upper realms of it are all around self-actualization, “Who am I at a really connected level?” Both connected within the community, how big of a contribution is my life but also how connected are you spiritually? Aristotle had a term for this and a lot of people are unaware of this. Aristotle didn’t just talk about the negative effects of a hedonistic lifestyle. He also talked about a eudonistic lifestyle, which is the happiness that comes from knowing your life is about contribution to others.
I think what a lot of us end up being is that we’re in a career where maybe there is some marginal level of contribution. What I was doing before, even what you were doing before, Adam, we all know that you wouldn’t be doing what you’re doing if there wasn’t some level of contribution. Someone somewhere needs you. If that contribution isn’t really aligned with your heart, like in my case, because I was working in the oil and gas sector, it wasn’t really firing me up to help create better systems for how we transport natural gas on this planet. I get that that’s needed but it doesn’t feel like that was really my mission on this planet and that it’s the contribution that I really want to have in terms of what I want my life to be about at the end of the day. I think really that’s what it comes down to.
It’s not something that we are introduced to very early and that’s why I think more than a midlife kind of thing. I think it’s just that we are trained differently. We’re exposed to different things. When we were younger we’re not exposed to certain things like the question of, “Why am I here? What’s my purpose? Is there a purpose to my being? Is there a reason beyond my parents getting together than I was born? What is that all?”
When you think about it, we are the first generation ever that’s really had the luxury to delve into that question. Our parents’ generation, in many cases, they spend their whole life getting the stability of their survival in place. Making sure their kids went to university, making sure the house was paid off, etc. Then maybe at the end of their lifetime, they had a little bit of money to enjoy the fruits of their labor and have some form of retirement. That question certainly didn’t come early in their careers because the basic, “Let’s make sure my family is safe and setup and everybody’s got healthcare, etc.” When you think about what the conversation would have been 50 years ago, especially in countries that didn’t have effective healthcare systems. Money was a much bigger conversation because money is important to your basic needs. Especially if you’re still living in the US, for example, and you are one of the countries that still doesn’t have a really solid healthcare. If you don’t feel the security in your basic needs being met, it’s hard to have the luxury to delve into the conversation of, “What is my passion? What is my life really meant to be about?” If you’re in fear, it’s pretty hard to be in the space of really being a high contribution to other people.
It’s a vicious cycle too because when you don’t ask those questions, you end you doing things out of the sense of, I’ll call it scarcity, but it is creating safety, creating security. It’s those basic needs that are at the bottom of Maslow’s pyramid. To want to create the highest and best version of yourself is not exactly what we’re trained to be thinking about in kindergarten or in fifth grade or in tenth grade, not really. Get your ABCs, learn to read and write, learn Math and Science so that you can ultimately be of value in society. Basically, get a job and be of value in society. You’ll be paid well enough and then your security is guaranteed on some level, and the truth is when you have a lot of people that are doing things without questioning them. We’re a robotic society before the robotics. You end up with a lot of miseries, a lot of pain.
I don’t think I’ve ever said this before but years and years ago, people didn’t live as long. Their pain and suffering ended earlier. They weren’t around. I think when I was looking at something that Buckminster Fuller had written. He was born in 1895. At that time when he was born, the life expectancy of a male was 42 years old. He didn’t speak to how long women lived at that time. Men generally, they lived shorter lengths, say 42. He was 32 years old and he had crashed and burned a business and with other people’s money including people in his family and stuff. He was really in great deal of shame and devastated by just how his life had gone the way it had gone. They had lost their first child, had some pretty serious illnesses and she died very young. They were just expecting a newborn, another baby and he is 32 and he is like, “I’ve got ten years left in my life and I’m a complete and total disaster.” This is Buckminster Fuller, the inventor of the geodesic dome but so much of this futurist. It is interesting because human needs have to be met and at the same time, one of the greatest human needs that is neglected is the work that we can do on our own souls and how it is that we care for ourselves, that we cultivate what is so uniquely human about each of us.
I almost like to think of it as though there’s almost like different sports at play. I like to use sports analogies because they work. When we think about the bottom tiers of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, if you think of your basic survival needs as one sport, then money is the scoreboard in that sport. A lot of people create their whole life around monetary success because that’s the scoreboard of those foundational elements of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. Money is very important. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not dissing money. When you move into the higher realms, things like influence become more important. The higher realms are more about your contribution to community and to society and self-actualization and self-fulfillment, which is all about your relationships with other people and your relationship with yourself.
When we think about the currency of those tiers, it moves away from being money and it’s more around influence. How much influence do you have in the world? A lot of people don’t think of influence as a whole different sport than money but in fact, it is. You can use money to buy influence but it’s an indirect way and not a very effective way to get influence. There are great examples of that within politicians. There are politicians that we know bought their way into power, but it’s very tenuous and difficult for them to hold influence and power because the influence they hold was purchased with money, as opposed to real influence, which is do people know, like and trust you enough that they’ll take action based on your word? It’s really fascinating to watch how that works.
I love that you were talking about breathing. I love using breathing as an analogy for influence. When we first took our first breaths of live, we actually had to learn the skill of breathing. You came out, it hurt like heck. Somebody whacked you on the back. You thought, “What is this crazy person doing assaulting me?” You’ve got a couple gulps of air down and then suddenly you mastered the skill of breathing. Probably at that point, you never thought of it again until those moments maybe when your best friend had to elbow you on the ribs and say, “Honey, you’re not breathing right now. Take a breath.” Or maybe you started doing yoga or Qigong or karate or one of the martial arts where you realize, “There is an advanced level of breathing and I really do need to learn to master breath.” By and large, we don’t go through our day and say, “Shoot me on the head. I’ve got to breathe 24 hours today. Where am I going to find the time to breathe?” It’s not something we do. Influence is a lot like that. When people get the skill of it and when they master it, they never really have to stop and think about, “How do I go through my day doing this skill and building influence?” They just naturally do it. It naturally builds. Then it becomes something that very much feeds how they get to those upper echelons of the Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, the more fulfilling realms of life.
Which is the ultimate pivot; to pivot into a place of self-love, unconditional self-love. Giving yourself what it is that you typically, I’m typically and I think everybody is typically looking for attention. When you can give that to yourself in an unconditional way so you can be with all the emotions, the things that come up in a way that’s without judgment, you attain something of peace, which is that’s the top of the pyramid. Self-actualization is another way of saying the peace; the peace that cannot be described.
I know there’s another pivot story that I’m aching to have our focus here. Will share that one? I love Brené Brown’s work. We talked about her quite a bit. Vulnerability is I think a very powerful thing and really beautiful too. Thank you for modeling that and sharing a little bit about that year of turmoil. I think there’s a lot of people who can really identify with that. I know I personally can. Thank you for that.
I think all of my biggest pivots in life and in business always come from when I’m not actually doing something I teach. I think the biggest one for me that has happened most recently is having the privilege of leading an organization like the Evolutionary Business Council. The Evolutionary Business Council is a community of changed agents throughout the world. People who are teaching transformational principles inside their work. One of the things I often teach is figure out what you want to stand for first and worry about the brick and mortar or the physical aspects of your community second. It’s very easy to test any kind of teaching or any kind of program online before you would ever bother with building a building or creating a physical manifestation of it.
A lot of my biggest breakthroughs in business happened through intervention. When people point out to me, I’m not doing something I’m teaching. About a year and a half ago, I was sitting with a bunch of our members of the Evolutionary Business Council. A bunch of them were talking about, “Wouldn’t it be cool if we can actually create a community where we all hang out together in Costa Rica?” For some reason, I really was talking Costa Rica. I was just thinking, “Yes. What a cool idea.” We all know we become like the five people we most hangout with. What would it be like if we were sitting by the pool at night and the person we are chatting with is Partha Nandi who runs the television show Ask Dr. Nandi or Harrison Klein who runs The Masters Gathering. Huge names in the industry.
I remember my first thought being, “I always teach do the online first. It’s easier. Test your marketing, build a community first,” and they all looked at me and they said, “Teresa, you built a giant community already. The EBC is over 300 thought leaders from around the world. You have built the virtual first and you’ve never ever in your teaching said, Don’t build the physical manifestation. You just said, Do it last.” They all started laughing and they said, “We think you’re at the last now, Teresa. You can build the physical manifestation of your dream.” It’s funny because then I just went out with some quick emails to people saying, “What do you guys think of this idea?” Everybody came in and went, “How do we sign up? Where do we put our money on the table? How do we buy?”
Not that there’s a wrong and a right way, but sometimes it’s important to notice what’s coming out of your mouth. I love hanging around with these high level thought leaders because they notice what’s coming out of my mouth more than I do. They are always the ones that call me on it when I’m not creating what I say I should be creating. The really cool thing about this is I now get to live this life where I spend my summers in Canada and my winters down in Costa Rica. A dozen years ago, when I first had that really bad year, I couldn’t have dreamed that I would be able to create this life where I get to travel all over the world and speak on really big stages and that my book would be a bestseller in these many countries, and that by the way, I would get to live in this community with really cool people in this beautiful place. I could chase summer all year round if I wanted. That kind of life wasn’t conceivable to me. It was conceivable as somebody else’s life but not conceivable as my own life. I’m grateful for all those moments that were perceivable breakdown or intervention or whatever they were that got me to actually take the next step. I really do think if you just lean in to what the next step is, eventually your life will get to a place that you couldn’t have dreamed possible.
I’m going to ask you a question because you teed this up. It’s difficult to see ourselves at times and we all have blind spots. If you were guessing, is there some area of your life that you teach or that is part of what’s in the realm of your business where you’re not living what it is that you are teaching or living what it is that you are intending?
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I would say there are dozens. One of the reasons I’m so excited about having this project where I get to pick my neighbors is I really think it’s important to have friends like you who are straight shooters that will really tell you in those moments where you’re not living up to your full potential. One of the gifts of the Evolutionary Business Council that I’m actually humbled to have the ability to create the context for what this community is, is that they are all people I want to learn from. I may have the influence game mastered in terms of I really understand what creates where the most epidemics and how to generate mass energy around an idea but that doesn’t mean that I’m really good at setting up a marketing funnel. It doesn’t necessarily mean I might be a first or a second danblack belt as a speaker, etc. but there’s still a fifth dan to get to. I love having this opportunity to hang out with all these other likeminded individuals where we can just become friends. When I look at what I really want in friends, I want friends that are straight shooters and will tell me when I missed the mark or will lovingly support me in getting past my own weaknesses.
I’m one of the most flawed creatures on the planet. I like to think that we are all perfect in all our imperfections. Maybe all those areas we struggle, maybe all those places that our inner dialogues takes us out of the game are actually just part of the perfection of who were are as human beings. I often talk about all my weaknesses and my imperfections on stage because I think that gives other people permission to go crazy and play a big game not only in spite of all the areas that they’re challenged but because of all the areas that they are challenged.
Your imperfections are in many ways a part of your credibility when you own them, when you’re willing to not try to hide them. Even in the marketplace because we do a lot of work in marketing as well. The world that we are living in right now I think is much more authenticity-driven. Truth and honesty in the marketing is an oxymoron on some level but not going forward. I think millennials and younger even still are much more dialed into what’s bullshit. They sense it, they can feel it, they smell it and that’s an old paradigm. We feel like the more authentic you can be, if it’s vulnerable, it’s vulnerable, if it’s not, it’s not. Those imperfections are really also great strengths. They are great tools for educating other people.
People look at their own imperfections as a great reason why they shouldn’t do certain things. Why it’s not time, why it wouldn’t be right. Why they’d be a fraud or somehow it wouldn’t work because they crashed and burned ten years ago in real estate. They’re wiped out or whatever in the last business they did or something. They tell themselves those stories that are credible inside their own head that makes sense. To the rest of us when we hear them, we go, “I’ve got one just like that.” It’s like, “I’ll tell you mine if you tell me yours,” but does it stop you? When you do that, you really give people permission to own their story because it’s probably no better or no worse than yours. It’s also a great invitation to go forward.
That’s the great human condition. Part of what defines humanity is that we all invent inner dialogue. It’s cool that the research shows that most of us invented around the age of two or three are more significant negative self-talk and usually when we’re first learning language are the first failures of our life. I can actually remember the day I first invented my most significant negative self-talk, which is something you might not know about me. I’m the youngest of nine kids. I’m not really from Canada, I’m from Northern Canada. I grew up in the backwoods. We used to go in to a boat access cabin every summer. My siblings were the only people I had to play with. I remember one day, we were just back from the cabin and everybody is packed into the little tiny kitchen of our 100-year-old house and my grandmother is there. She is taking everyone to the movies, which is in my family a big freaking deal because we never go to the movies.
Somebody has finally convinced my mom that Walt Disney is not the worst guy on the face of the Earth. My mom is letting us all go see The Love Bug. Three-year-old me is shaking with excitement. I’m so thrilled to finally get to go to a movie. I looked across the room just in time to hear mom say, “Teresa can’t go. She is too little.” Three-year-old me makes up, “I’m too small to play with the big kids.” The utter devastation of that moment just stuck and became a part of my being. The interesting thing about having an inner conversation like that, “I’m too small to play with the big kids,” I then start doing always one of two things. Like every other human being on the planet, I start spending all of my time desperately trying to prove that I’m not too small to play with the big kids or desperately terrified that I am. We all have some version of this going on. Go figure that I should become a globalist already on influence because importance became the critical conversation in my life at the age of two or three. I can’t even remember how old I was. When you think about it, your negative self-talk doesn’t just hold you back, it also defines you or what we call as limiting self-talk.
I think part of the key to really look at is everybody has some version of this, unless you are socio-psychopath, in which case you’ve got a different kind of inner dialogue going on. Good people everywhere have some version of negative self-talk that you developed when you were young. It’s probably not just holding you back, it’s also probably driving you to do some really cool things in your life. When you can come to peace with that and fall in love with that little inner child who created that little Tessie, I call my inner child Tessie because that was nickname as a kid. Little Tessie was just trying to make sense of the world and just trying to protect me in that moment. I’m actually deeply grateful that she created that inner dialogue because this really cool life that I’ve now developed for myself has been available inside of that.
Inner Tessie was able to use proving as a bit of a motivator to get going. Even though we know the root of proving ultimately isn’t the root for doing the things we want to do, that’s a developmental leap. At the beginning, to use an experience like that as a driving force to break free of that restriction, that small world that you are being relegated to. That little box that you are being put in and not for any bad reason but just because it was somebody’s view of you at that time that you are too little.
I love to ask you what kind of rituals or habits, I think of habits as things we do unconsciously and rituals or master habits even are things we do consciously to create results that we want. They could be the results we’ve been getting and we want more of them or they could be new things that we believe we deserve. We’re ready to own some things to. Do you have any of those?
I have a couple that really served me well. The first is I do what I affectionately call one breath meditations. They’re actually probably more like two or three breaths on average, but I call them a one breath meditation. Whenever I get to a place in my day or I don’t know what to do next, I’m stuck, I’m not sure where to go next, I consciously clear my thoughts, take a deep breath and I just ask my higher consciousness, “What’s next?” I use that as a tool to help me lean toward where I’m powerful in life and lean away from the work, the activities, the busyness, the things that tend to pull me back downward into those areas where I’m not powerful, and I mean personal power when I say the word power. That would be the first.
The second that I really enjoy doing, I call it channeling my inner elder. You meet a lot of people when they are first trying to master a skill, they’ll say things like, “I channeled Martin Luther King Jr. there, I channeled Gandhi.” While that’s a beautiful powerful thing to do, I think it’s even more powerful to be you 100%. Not only have I made friends with my inner child because I love that she is an exquisite part of who I’ve become, I like to make friends with my inner elder. There is a version of me that’s twenty years older than I am now. She is uber sexy and powerful in her 70’s. She is so much living a dream life that I even at this point with how amazing my life is, I can’t even conceive where she is at. Her life is so amazing and her contribution to the planet is so profound.
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When I feel stuck and I’m not sure what’s next or I’ve got a decision or sometimes when I have to walk out on stage in front of a thousand people, especially in those moments where I’m too small to play with the big kids, and little Tessie is present, I pull in my inner elder and I let my inner elder give little Tessie a hug and tell Tessie to go play in the sandbox. Tessie gets to be in charge of fun in my life because my little inner child is crazy fun. She is really a lot of fun to be around. We give Tessie a new job. She doesn’t have to worry about the fact that I’m too small to play with the big kids because my inner elder is seriously big enough to play with the big kids and she is awesome enough. In doing that, it helps me really come to peace with the whole of my being. It helps me to let the little pieces of me, that at one point, I might have looked at as flaws and has me realize that all of them are just parts of the exquisite masterpiece that is the human condition that any of us are.
I know folks will want to get a hold of your book. What’s the best way to reach, either get the book or find out more about the work that you’re doing in the world?
You can come to MassInfluenceTheBook.com. We have a 30-day influence challenge you can do if you are inspired. If you want to build some muscle in understanding how the influence principles work. All of the links are there where you can get my book. Any digital version of my book, we always give away complimentary. Whether it’s on iTunes or Kindle or Smashwords, the digital version is always free. That’s my gift and contribution to society. If you just want the audible or the hard version, you can find the links there as well.
What’s the name for your inner elder? Does she have a name?
She is still Teresa because I love the name Teresa. It is now a power name for me.
Thank you so much. Thank you for your time. Thank you for the insights that you shared with us and for this beautiful, exquisite you.
Totally my pleasure, Adam. Thank you so much for having me here.
We’ll see you on the next episode. We remind ourselves at the beginning and the end of all these conversations that our primary responsibility in this life is to model love and we can’t give anything we don’t have. It’s impossible. It’s not that you don’t love other people, it’s that you can’t love them any better than you love yourself. To love others is a pretty special thing. I recommend that you continue the work of loving yourself unconditionally. You can start tomorrow as every morning you get that opportunity if you’re really, really, lucky, you get to wake up tomorrow and be blessed with that first conscious breath. If you feel like it, if the spirit moves you or whatever moves you, stand up, put your feet on the floor and declare these words and say, “I love my life.” I love you all. I look forward to being with you again very, very soon. Ciao for now.